OOPs, Here It Is!
Who are the most Overrated Offensive Players in the game? Well, to answer that question, we developed the following simple equation: (Batting Average > League Average) + (On-Base Percentage < League Average) + (Slugging Average < League Average) = Overrated Offensive Players These Overrated Offensive Players are also known as OOPs. We're not in the business of adding more acronyms into the broth of alphabet soup that already exists. OOPs is different. It's not one of these newfangled stats. Instead, it's just a fun way to identify those players who aren't nearly as good as advertised. By definition, the players who meet the above criterion are singles hitters who only walk on occasion and rarely slug home runs. In other words, batting average makes up the lion's share of their value. Put another way, the qualifying hitters have low Isolated Discipline (IsoD) and Isolated Power (IsoP). IsoD equals OBP minus AVG, and IsoP equals SLG minus AVG. These isolated stats tell you what's not a part of batting average. Here are the players who met the above equation in 2005: 2005 SEASON: AVG > .264, OBA < .330, SLG < .419 w/ MIN 400 PA YEAR AVG OBA SLG 1 Willy Taveras 2005 .291 .325 .341 2 So Taguchi 2005 .288 .322 .412 3 Toby Hall 2005 .287 .315 .368 4 Terrence Long 2005 .279 .321 .378 5 Edgardo Alfonzo 2005 .277 .327 .345 6 Juan Pierre 2005 .276 .326 .354 7 Neifi Perez 2005 .274 .298 .383 8 Shannon Stewart 2005 .274 .323 .388 9 Jose Reyes 2005 .273 .300 .386 10 Darin Erstad 2005 .273 .325 .371 11 Orlando Hudson 2005 .271 .315 .412 12 Royce Clayton 2005 .270 .320 .351 13 Aaron Rowand 2005 .270 .329 .407 14 Angel Berroa 2005 .270 .305 .375 The 2005 All-OOPs team is as follows: C: Toby Hall 1B: Darin Erstad 2B: Orlando Hudson SS: Neifi Perez 3B: Edgardo Alfonzo OF: Willy Taveras OF: So Taguchi OF: Terrence Long Although Darin Erstad is conspicuous by being the only first baseman in the table, Willy Taveras wins the Baseball Analysts' OOPs Player of the Year award by virtue of having the highest batting average among those who qualify. Earning the OOPs POY award does not equate to being the worst player in baseball. It just signifies the most overrated offensive player in the game. The All-Active OOPs team (minimum of 2,500 PA): C: Paul LoDuca 1B: Darin Erstad 2B: Mark Grudzielanek SS: Jimmy Rollins 3B: Joe Randa OF: Mark Kotsay OF: B.J. Surhoff OF: Quinton McCracken I'm sorry to disappoint the Kansas City Royals but Mark Grudzielanek is the Most Overrated Offensive Player among those who are still active. The shortstop-turned-second baseman has a career AVG that is 6% above the league norm with an OBP and SLG that are 4% and 9% below the mean. Erstad is the only player who made the 2005 and All-Active OOPs teams. In the comments section at 6-4-2 earlier this month, my son corrected another reader who called newly acquired Angels reliever J.C. Romero the team's LOGGY. Joe remarked that "Romero is a LOOGY, not a LOGGY. Erstad is the team's LOGGY (Low Offense, Gold Glove Yokel)." The All-Time OOPs team (minimum of 5,000 PA): C: B.J. Surhoff 1B: Lou Finney 2B: Glenn Beckert SS: Alvin Dark 3B: Enos Cabell OF: Lance Johnson OF: Willie Wilson OF: Doc Cramer B.J. Surhoff made the All-Active team as an OF but was forced onto the All-Time team as a catcher, given that no other backstop qualified. Based on the OOPs methodology, Glenn Beckert is the Most Overrated Offensive Player ever. Beckert had a career AVG that was 9% above the league norm with an OBP and SLG that were 2% and 10% below the mean. What is it about these former Chicago Cubs second basemen? That'll about rap it up. OOPs, there it is! Source: Sabermetric Baseball Encyclopedia Update: I missed Terry Kennedy the first time through. He belongs as the catcher on the All-Time OOPs team. Surhoff can stake his claim as on OF on the All-Active OOPs team. [Additional reader comments and retorts at Baseball Primer.] |
Comments
Oh, this is too good. Nice work, Rich!
Posted by: JC at December 20, 2005 6:51 AM
Gotta say, Rich, that Neifi! could end up on any list that combines the words "overrated" and "offense" is frightening to the point of disorientation and nausea.
And I'm just sooooo happy that I can count two, TWO!, of these fine gentlemen among the denizens of the Land 'O Cub.
Now, if only Jim Hendry can somehow snag Terrence Long for right field........
Posted by: Derek Smart at December 20, 2005 6:51 AM
This may be the most entertaining article I've read all off-season.
Posted by: Joseph P. at December 20, 2005 8:12 AM
Taveras and Perez should also get "kudos" as the players on the 2005 list with the lowest SLG and OBP, respectively.
Posted by: Rich Lederer at December 20, 2005 8:16 AM
Neifi and Pierre... something to look forward to in 2005.
Before I knew you were limiting this to 400 PAs, my first thought was Jose Macias, who is forever getting praised as a guy who can hit .280 off the bench. Before Dusty gave him a rash of starts the last week of the season (and don't ask why, because no one knows), Jose was hitting .270/.284/.324 - which should be good enough to earn him the utility player spot on the all-OOPs team from 2005 (unfortunately, his lousy starts that last week dropped his final BA to .254, so that takes him out of the running).
Posted by: UCCF at December 20, 2005 8:28 AM
FWIW, Orlando Hudson was only at -5 RCAA, and when you factor in his defense, he's not that bad.
Posted by: Steve Lombardi at December 20, 2005 8:44 AM
OOPs isn't trying to identify the worst offensive players. It is designed to measure the most Overrated Offensive Players.
Hudson is the only LOGGY (Low Offense, Gold Glove Yokel) on the 2005 team. Erstad is a former GG winner and is on the All-Active OOPs and LOGGY teams.
Beckert and Wilson are members of the All-Time OOPs and LOGGY teams.
Posted by: Rich Lederer at December 20, 2005 8:59 AM
Speaking of all-timers, set your SBE to:
Non P
AVERAGE "greater than/equal to" 0 vs. the league average
OBA "less than/equal to" 0 vs. the league average
SLG "less than/equal to" 0 vs. the league average
Who is the top of the list?
Luis Aparicio. Pretty interesting.
Dave Concepcion and Bert Campaneris are in the top 5 too.
Sticking with career marks, Adam Kennedy and Bengie Molina have been "OOPS" players all the time they've been with the Angels. Shawn Wooten too.
It's a shame there's no way to factor in BAw/RISP into the mix. That's what the Angels look for, no? Maybe OOPS doesn't matter if the guy can hit w/RISP?
I'm just thinking out loud on all this - which, yes, I know is dangerous.
Posted by: Steve Lombardi at December 20, 2005 9:10 AM
Luis Aparicio has the most plate appearances (11,230) of any player on the All-Time list. He and Red Schoendienst are the only players on the All-Time list who made their way into the Hall of Fame.
Yes, Concepcion and Campaneris are in the top five. Other prominent names on the list include Garry Templeton, Terry Pendleton (former MVP and batting champ who was an average to below-average hitter other than in 1991-92), Bill Virdon, Vince Coleman, and, as Repoz has mentioned at Baseball Primer Newsblog, Bobby Richardson.
Posted by: Rich Lederer at December 20, 2005 9:20 AM
I would call this a list of overrated "hitters". Offense takes into account other important stats such as runs scored and RBIs. Possibly even stolen bases and sacrifices -- especially those that lead to runs being scored.
Don't know what effect that would have on these lists, but if they're going to be referred to in terms of offense, their needs to be a more complete accounting.
Posted by: Bruce Radic at December 20, 2005 9:34 AM
I would call this a list of overrated "hitters". Offense takes into account other important stats such as runs scored and RBIs. Possibly even stolen bases and sacrifices -- especially those that lead to runs being scored.
I disagree. AVG/OBP/SLG takes into account all elements of offense other than baserunning. Stats such as R and RBI are highly team and lineup dependent. In most cases, SB and SF/SH add very little, if any, extra value. SB need to be netted against CS and, generally speaking, only those baserunners who are successful more than 67% of the time are a positive force.
As a result, the vast majority of a player's offensive value can be gleaned from his AVG/OBP/SLG rate stats.
Posted by: Rich Lederer at December 20, 2005 10:40 AM
Isn't OBP usually considered 3 or more times as valuable as slugging? Neyer had an article last year rating it more than 3 times as valuable as slugging, and Beane seems to rate it as much as 6 times as valuable. I'm not sure if that's because SLG can be 0 to 4.000 and OBP can be 0 to 1.000, or simply because OBP correlates to team run scoring much more closely than SLG does.
What would the rankings look like if you weighed OBP 3 or 6 times SLG?
Posted by: Jason Powers at December 20, 2005 11:48 AM
I'd like to nominate my Kansas City Royals for the ultimate OOPs Franchise. Note two of the top fourteen (Long and Berroa) were Royals. The Active list includes newly acquired Mark Grudzielanek and recently departed Joe Randa. And in the all-time category, we have the estimable Willie Wilson. OOPs; we lost 100 games again!
Posted by: Nick at December 20, 2005 12:59 PM
In defense of Wilson, at least as it relates to his career as a Royal, his career OBP dipped below league average during the last four years in OAK and CHC.
But you also have Ken Harvey to kick around. He fits the bill perfectly. If he had more plate appearances, Harvey would give Erstad a run for his money every year.
Posted by: Rich Lederer at December 20, 2005 1:15 PM
What would the rankings look like if you weighed OBP 3 or 6 times SLG?
The OOPs rankings wouldn't really change because they are designed to find players with AVG greater than Lg plus OBP and SLG less than Lg. Weighting OBP and SLG doesn't change whether a player's rate stats are greater than or less than the league average.
Posted by: Rich Lederer at December 20, 2005 5:02 PM
It would change the order of futility. You just put them in order of Batting Average, I was figuring on ordering them by HOW overrated they are:
(exceeds BA) + ((3 * OBP shortfall) + (SLG shortfall)) = Overrated Offensive Player Score
Rank. First Last AVG+/3xOBP-/SLG- = OOPs Score
1. Neifi Perez .010/.096/.036 = .142
2. Jose Reyes .009/.090/.033 = .132
3. Angel Berroa .006/.075/.044 = .125
4. Willy Taveras .027/.015/.078 = .120
5. Toby Hall .023/.045/.051 = .119
6. Royce Clayton .006/.030/.068 = .104
7. Edgardo Alfonzo .013/.009/.074 = .096
8. Juan Pierre .012/.012/.065 = .089
9. Terrence Long .015/.027/.041 = .083
10. Darin Erstad .009/.015/.048 = .072
11. Shannon Stewart .010/.021/.031 = .062
12. Orlando Hudson .007/.045/.007 = .059
13. So Taguchi .024/.024/.007 = .055
14. Aaron Rowand .006/.003/.012 = .021
All overrated players any way you slice it.
Posted by: Jason Powers at December 23, 2005 11:44 AM
Jason - I see your point now. Yes, that would be another way to rank them. Like you said, they are all overrated, especially by the more casual fan and those who still value batting average so highly.
Posted by: Rich Lederer at December 23, 2005 5:17 PM